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Cranelane  
#1 Posted : 07 January 2021 13:38:23(UTC)
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With the 40th anniversary of their debut single approaching, we rate the band who blend dance and rock like no other

(by Alexis Petridis)

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#2 Posted : 07 January 2021 13:56:32(UTC)
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Alex and I run in similar Facebook circles, and these lists are always subjective...

That said, swap Thieves Like Us for Age of Consent and 1963 for Ceremony, then reshuffle the top ten. No quibbles from me.
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#3 Posted : 07 January 2021 14:12:25(UTC)
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I personally would have Sunrise and This Time of Night in there and probably leave out Weirdo and Fine Time but yes, it’s all subjective.
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#4 Posted : 07 January 2021 15:14:35(UTC)
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...and This Time of Night in there


I've been working on a cover of This Time Of Night for a while. I took that brilliant middle 8 with the piano and strings and built a new intro, the way the band themselves reworked Subculture for the MIF and current gigs.

I even got an English friend who lives here in SF to record Jeffrey Bernard's excised vocal sample "I'm one of the few people who live what's called a low life."
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ROCKET MICK on 08/01/2021(UTC)
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#5 Posted : 07 January 2021 15:16:44(UTC)
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This is an interesting list and a good read. Makes me want to come up with my own. A really good mix of new order styles. I also love the brotherhood tracks As it is when it was, weirdo, I’d probably also add broken promise. Glad to see Restless in there. Shocked no leave me alone but as everyone says it’s subjective.
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ROCKET MICK on 08/01/2021(UTC)
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#6 Posted : 07 January 2021 15:25:52(UTC)
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I know it’s one person’s point of view but...

Ceremony only at number 13?

Piffle.
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#7 Posted : 08 January 2021 02:18:39(UTC)
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As I commented in the spotting thread, these Guardian things seem to be getting a bit repetitive. I thought they did one of these top 30 New Order in recent years but upon googling it was the “where to start with New Order” article which was in the Guardian in April 2020. Also there was a top 10 New Order songs in the Guardian a few years before that as well which is probably why it seemed like these songs ranked pieces had been done more than once or twice in The Guardian in recent years.


Anyway, of this latest one , I particularly liked Alex’s description of Gillian having “insouciant cool” when she played guitar with her back to the audience the whole of As It Is When It Was on the Pumped Full Of Drugs video. Will have to look up that clip again, been a long time.
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#8 Posted : 08 January 2021 03:01:48(UTC)
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In the words of Confucious, fuck that.
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Gillian having “insouciant cool” when she played guitar with her back to the audience the whole of As It Is When It Was on the Pumped Full Of Drugs video. Will have to look up that clip again, been a long time.


I love the way NO nuts insist on finding levels that probably aren't there. I reckon it's just stage fright.

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#10 Posted : 08 January 2021 04:01:24(UTC)
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Gillian having “insouciant cool” when she played guitar with her back to the audience the whole of As It Is When It Was on the Pumped Full Of Drugs video. Will have to look up that clip again, been a long time.


I love the way NO nuts insist on finding levels that probably aren't there. I reckon it's just stage fright.



Possibly. Still cool though. She makes stage fright look cool.

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ROCKET MICK on 08/01/2021(UTC)
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#11 Posted : 08 January 2021 06:34:19(UTC)
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...and This Time of Night in there


I've been working on a cover of This Time Of Night for a while. I took that brilliant middle 8 with the piano and strings and built a new intro, the way the band themselves reworked Subculture for the MIF and current gigs.

I even got an English friend who lives here in SF to record Jeffrey Bernard's excised vocal sample "I'm one of the few people who live what's called a low life."



This sounds very interesting. 👍


I read the Guardian list earlier and, whilst these things are always subjective and can never be "correct" there's a lot more to this list and its comments than the majority I've ever read. Clearly knows his Neworder and an interesting read.

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ROCKET MICK on 08/01/2021(UTC)
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#12 Posted : 08 January 2021 07:03:00(UTC)
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Jeffrey Bernard's excised vocal sample "I'm one of the few people who live what's called a low life."


Just as an aside, does anyone know exactly where the band got the sample of this from?
I've always wanted to hear it in context. I've tried to find it on several occasions, but with no luck.



Hmm, just had the idea to search the BBC Genome site and see if there were any programmes about Mr Bernard around the time of 'Low Life' being recorded.
I found this, broadcast on 21/03/85, which seems a possible match:

https://genome.ch.bbc.co...09bb4719948c5cadc7116e43

Now to try and find a copy.

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