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#126 Posted : 22 September 2020 12:02:57(UTC)
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Agreed with most of those songs you’ve listed there, perspex. But I’ve always quite liked , or at least a lot of elements of, Player In The League( great outro), Who’s Joe?( great verses and chorus) and even Slow Jam . I Got A Feeling is also pretty catchy even though the music is old and creeky. The rest though, yeah not great. Thing is, if Peter Hook was still in the band I feel that’s the sort of crap they’d still be putting out.
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#127 Posted : 22 September 2020 12:33:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: LostSiren Go to Quoted Post
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Glad this is a 'proper' single and not a one-off like Brutal.


I'm taking this the wrong way, surely, but Brutal was the start of a great 6 years of New Order productivity.


True, it was productive, but I'm not sure how worthwhile a lot of the songs that followed it were, but that 's just my opinion.

Personally speaking, I always that 'Brutal' kind of set the template for a lot of bland songs that followed:

Brutal
60 Miles An Hour
Slow Jam
Close Range
Sabotage
Player In The League
Such A Good Thing
Who's Joe?
Hey Now What You Doing
I Told You So
Working Overtime
I'll Stay With You
Hellbent
Shake It Up
I Got A Feeling

As per Fotz agree with some but not all

Love :

60mph, close range, who’s joe, I’ll stay with you.

Like :

player in the league, hey Now what you doing, hellbent, such a good thing, I told you so (lost sirens version).

Passable:

Brutal, slow jam, sabotage, I got a feeling

New order at their worse:

Working overtime, shake it up, I told you so (WFTSC version) You missed Rock the shack!


All a matter of opinion but good to stimulate some debate.

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#128 Posted : 22 September 2020 15:05:37(UTC)
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Yep. It’s good that we’re all different.

To be honest, I don’t dislike all of the songs I listed (for instance I like 60mph and Close Range).

I just think they all fit the same, fairly ordinary, mould.
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ROCKET MICK on 23/09/2020(UTC)
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#129 Posted : 22 September 2020 15:06:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: The Shadow Go to Quoted Post
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Glad this is a 'proper' single and not a one-off like Brutal.


I'm taking this the wrong way, surely, but Brutal was the start of a great 6 years of New Order productivity.


True, it was productive, but I'm not sure how worthwhile a lot of the songs that followed it were, but that 's just my opinion.

Personally speaking, I always that 'Brutal' kind of set the template for a lot of bland songs that followed:

Brutal
60 Miles An Hour
Slow Jam
Close Range
Sabotage
Player In The League
Such A Good Thing
Who's Joe?
Hey Now What You Doing
I Told You So
Working Overtime
I'll Stay With You
Hellbent
Shake It Up
I Got A Feeling

As per Fotz agree with some but not all

Love :

60mph, close range, who’s joe, I’ll stay with you.

Like :

player in the league, hey Now what you doing, hellbent, such a good thing, I told you so (lost sirens version).

Passable:

Brutal, slow jam, sabotage, I got a feeling

New order at their worse:

Working overtime, shake it up, I told you so (WFTSC version) You missed Rock the shack!


All a matter of opinion but good to stimulate some debate.



I personally like all of their songs mostly, it is only when I read the comments here on the forum that I start thinking and over analyzing and starting to think differently and disliking the song. Sadly
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#130 Posted : 22 September 2020 22:02:49(UTC)
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I know exactly what you mean about Brutal. It set a template for mediocre dadrock - Hellbent is almost identical.
Who's Joe is a gem, though.
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#131 Posted : 23 September 2020 01:16:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Michael Monkhouse Go to Quoted Post
I know exactly what you mean about Brutal. It set a template for mediocre dadrock - Hellbent is almost identical.
Who's Joe is a gem, though.


Those are all great songs again but after reading the negative comments here I start thinking otherwise especially from you lollll . You need to start drinking more tropical drinks like pineapple or mango drink with crushed ice to make you chill out and enjoy NO’s music.
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ROCKET MICK on 23/09/2020(UTC)
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#132 Posted : 23 September 2020 02:50:05(UTC)
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Be A Rebel played on Jeremy Vine’s Radio 2 lunchtime show yesterday. Maybe it’s starting finally to pick up more AirPlay.
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#133 Posted : 23 September 2020 03:06:57(UTC)
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I know exactly what you mean about Brutal. It set a template for mediocre dadrock - Hellbent is almost identical.
Who's Joe is a gem, though.


Those are all great songs again but after reading the negative comments here I start thinking otherwise especially from you lollll . You need to start drinking more tropical drinks like pineapple or mango drink with crushed ice to make you chill out and enjoy NO’s music.


I was just wondering what happened ti KeepShitCumming.
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ROCKET MICK on 23/09/2020(UTC)
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#134 Posted : 23 September 2020 08:45:13(UTC)
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Be A Rebel played on Jeremy Vine’s Radio 2 lunchtime show yesterday. Maybe it’s starting finally to pick up more AirPlay.


Wss on ken bruce today too....he was banging on about them before and after but i've no idea what he said as my manager was talking to me at the time unfortunately

Around 11.15 he played it

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#135 Posted : 23 September 2020 11:01:18(UTC)
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Be A Rebel played on Jeremy Vine’s Radio 2 lunchtime show yesterday. Maybe it’s starting finally to pick up more AirPlay.


Wss on ken bruce today too....he was banging on about them before and after but i've no idea what he said as my manager was talking to me at the time unfortunately

Around 11.15 he played it



Had a listen on catch up. Yeah Ken introduced it as something like “ their first song since Music Complete in 2015. Well obviously the music wasn’t complete as they’ve recorded a new single “. He talked about NO’s 2021 tour with PSB and mentioned the upcoming PCL box set. Ken has now shot up in my estimation as he sounded quite enthusiastic about everything NO related. Nice one, Ken.

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ROCKET MICK on 24/09/2020(UTC)
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#136 Posted : 24 September 2020 03:01:33(UTC)
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haha - this is hilarious. I actually kind of hope this is Hooky trolling Bernard big style

Nobody with ears could deny that it sounds a bazillion percent better like this

He should do the whole of Music Complete too




I see that WMG took that down already, but someone else has done another similar but different (not as good IMO) attempt at adding a Hooky bassline

I suppose NO were asking for it by releasing a single with no bass guitar on it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHmW4ed7GUI



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#137 Posted : 24 September 2020 07:59:48(UTC)
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haha - this is hilarious. I actually kind of hope this is Hooky trolling Bernard big style

Nobody with ears could deny that it sounds a bazillion percent better like this

He should do the whole of Music Complete too




I see that WMG took that down already, but someone else has done another similar but different (not as good IMO) attempt at adding a Hooky bassline

I suppose NO were asking for it by releasing a single with no bass guitar on it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHmW4ed7GUI






This is superb. Sounds like the attempt of someone trying to stamp their own style al over the song without any filter.
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#138 Posted : 25 September 2020 06:35:25(UTC)
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Have ordered a copy and really looking forward to it now as I recently bought a new stylus for my turntable and the sound is mindblowing.Did a straight replacement of the Ortofon OM5E stylus that originally came with the Pro-Ject Essential 2 turntable I’ve had around 5 years. Think it was well overdue a new stylus and realise now that the tracking might have also been out of alignment for quite a while and may even have done lasting damage to some discsFrown . Re-set the alignment and anti-skate and vinyl sounds beyond words now. Paid £45 for the new Ortofon OM5E stylus but actually wish now I’d upgraded to an Ortofon 2M Blue which I’ve read fantastic reviews of. £185 for that one though so ,maybe one day.But maybe not right now. In the meantime , the Ortofon OM 5E has made me conclude vinyl really is the best format for sound quality . The separation of instruments, the bass and treble and the sheer richness of sound has finished the argument for me over vinyl ,CD or Digital . Always been a bit undecided before but a really good stylus and correct alignment has left me gobsmacked Smile . Oops I’ve rambled and gone off topic.
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#139 Posted : 25 September 2020 10:44:55(UTC)
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I'm waiting for the CD Single.

The more I hear this record the more I really, really like it.

It's a cool tune.
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ROCKET MICK on 25/09/2020(UTC)
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#140 Posted : 30 September 2020 03:18:02(UTC)
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https://www.npr.org/2020/09/30/9...-radio-cant-stop-playing

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ROCKET MICK on 30/09/2020(UTC)
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#141 Posted : 30 September 2020 05:34:56(UTC)
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I'm waiting for the CD Single.




if there is one, it will probably have all the mixes on it.

but the european versions in the past had all the mixes,
when the UK ones sometimes didn't.

later
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#142 Posted : 30 September 2020 09:18:17(UTC)
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I finally heard it yesterday. Don’t ask me why...

Good but generic. Or generic but good. Reminds me of the first time I heard Here To Stay somehow. Not destined to be a classic, but I kind of like it. Any news is good news in these times...

And can you find anything non-generic these days, after all?

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#143 Posted : 01 October 2020 13:10:45(UTC)
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#144 Posted : 04 October 2020 04:06:12(UTC)
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all the mixes on it.


Of which there may be a few now. Mark Reeder confirmed a bunch to me ahead of my review (see the footnotes)

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#145 Posted : 08 October 2020 05:52:23(UTC)
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Now on BBC Radio2 playlist B. Think that means it’ll get played almost daily.
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#146 Posted : 09 October 2020 10:40:06(UTC)
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I’ve heard it a few times on Absolute Radio as well in case that hasn’t been mentioned.

I hope there isn’t going to be a Japanese cd with a remix that’s not on iTunes. No
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#147 Posted : 10 October 2020 00:57:27(UTC)
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I’ve heard it a few times on Absolute Radio as well in case that hasn’t been mentioned.

I hope there isn’t going to be a Japanese cd with a remix that’s not on iTunes. No


Yep. That’s pretty annoying.
Hoping that the standard UK CD single will have all the remixes.
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#148 Posted : 12 October 2020 10:15:32(UTC)
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Is it coming today or next Wednesday

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