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perspexorange  
#76 Posted : 09 September 2020 06:51:16(UTC)
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it is not a Classic New order song but still a great song.


Yep, agreed.Think that's how i feel about it.Not a classic but still great.



Yep - me too.

I'm also really grateful that we've finally got something new, after five years.

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ROCKET MICK on 09/09/2020(UTC)
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#77 Posted : 09 September 2020 07:07:13(UTC)
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I'm very happy to have something new.

Knowing this was intended to drop for the joint NO/PSB tour, I don't mind that it sounds like Electronic.

Yes, it's missing a good "bass as lead instrument" bassline. I know Tom doesn't want to imitate Hook's sound. Maybe this will sound better live.

What I really miss are thick '80s drum machine sounds. The wimpy almost-a-hand-clap snare doesn't do it for me.

If they'd broken out the Oberheim drum machine, put Tom front and center, and strengthened the intro this would go down as a classic single.

It's catchy, I've listened to it on repeat quite a bit. The vocal melody is strong.

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ROCKET MICK on 09/09/2020(UTC)
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#78 Posted : 09 September 2020 08:04:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
Steve on Shaun Keaveny show on 6Music just now talking about the song and seemed to imply the live DVD out at end of year.Go to around 2 hour 20 min (3.20pm) https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_6music now to catch show live and rewind .I guess the catch up after show option later on will have a different link address.


Thanks for this.
Also, looks like Hooky was interviewed just before in a separate news article on the Haçienda.

They also made mention that Hooky will also be on Chris Hawkins' programme tomorrow:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000mb6t
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ROCKET MICK on 10/09/2020(UTC)
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#79 Posted : 09 September 2020 10:03:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: perspexorange Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Fotz Go to Quoted Post
Steve on Shaun Keaveny show on 6Music just now talking about the song and seemed to imply the live DVD out at end of year.Go to around 2 hour 20 min (3.20pm) https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_6music now to catch show live and rewind .I guess the catch up after show option later on will have a different link address.


Thanks for this.
Also, looks like Hooky was interviewed just before in a separate news article on the Haçienda.

They also made mention that Hooky will also be on Chris Hawkins' programme tomorrow:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000mb6t


Yes i caught the bit before with Hooky and Hacienda stuff.Shaun Keaveny said , after Be A Rebel was played in full, that more of the chat with Steve will be aired sometime but didn't say when.Think Keaveny might have said the second part of chat with Steve will be about the live DVD but not sure now without playing back the part of show.
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ROCKET MICK on 09/09/2020(UTC)
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#80 Posted : 09 September 2020 11:37:39(UTC)
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I'm very happy to have something new.

Knowing this was intended to drop for the joint NO/PSB tour, I don't mind that it sounds like Electronic.

Yes, it's missing a good "bass as lead instrument" bassline. I know Tom doesn't want to imitate Hook's sound. Maybe this will sound better live.

What I really miss are thick '80s drum machine sounds. The wimpy almost-a-hand-clap snare doesn't do it for me
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If they'd broken out the Oberheim drum machine, put Tom front and center, and strengthened the intro this would go down as a classic single.

It's catchy, I've listened to it on repeat quite a bit. The vocal melody is strong.


Agreed on both points, the drum programming is too polite and Tom doesn't seem to feature at all, I certainly can't hear any bass guitar, it's quite amiable though all the same.

It's cool that they dropped a new song out of nowhere, pity they didn't drop an album but I guess it takes them years to make an album nowadays.









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ROCKET MICK on 10/09/2020(UTC)
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#81 Posted : 09 September 2020 13:23:49(UTC)
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Wow so many negatives comments about this song, we should be Thankful that we got such a great song by them, if it is that easy to make a great catchy song like this then lets see you make it, it is not a Classic New order song but still a great song.


I agree it’s not easy to write decent catchy songs but the negative comments are only because we care. Music Complete probably took most by surprise at how fantastic, varied, fresh and imaginative it all sounded.

If BAR was originally from the same sessions then we might have expected more from it. It’s a good song and grown on me but it doesn’t stick in my head.

It’s astonishing to be getting music from this group of people after 6 decades (see what I did there). And so I can’t complain and shouldn’t be critical but there you go.

As for throwing down the gauntlet of writing a great catchy song....oh go on then....I’ll give it a go if you will?

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ROCKET MICK on 10/09/2020(UTC)
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#82 Posted : 09 September 2020 13:40:37(UTC)
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Ah, could listen to the final keyboard sequence there for quite a lot longer.



Me too...and the lovely synth stings throughout are a highlight. Barney's in decent form I guess...I've heard worse. Looking forward to the remixes and the instrumental in particular.

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ROCKET MICK on 10/09/2020(UTC)
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#83 Posted : 09 September 2020 13:42:52(UTC)
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At least there’s no “hey there you, watcha doing” present.



Only one 'watcha' this time round lol

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ROCKET MICK on 10/09/2020(UTC)
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#84 Posted : 09 September 2020 18:14:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post
I'm very happy to have something new.

Knowing this was intended to drop for the joint NO/PSB tour, I don't mind that it sounds like Electronic.

Yes, it's missing a good "bass as lead instrument" bassline. I know Tom doesn't want to imitate Hook's sound. Maybe this will sound better live.

What I really miss are thick '80s drum machine sounds. The wimpy almost-a-hand-clap snare doesn't do it for me.

If they'd broken out the Oberheim drum machine, put Tom front and center, and strengthened the intro this would go down as a classic single.

It's catchy, I've listened to it on repeat quite a bit. The vocal melody is strong.


They'll just need another new song to release now in it's place, next year, in time for the tour! Happy

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ROCKET MICK on 10/09/2020(UTC)
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#85 Posted : 09 September 2020 18:24:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: daftpunk Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 50poundnote Go to Quoted Post
I'm very happy to have something new.

Knowing this was intended to drop for the joint NO/PSB tour, I don't mind that it sounds like Electronic.

Yes, it's missing a good "bass as lead instrument" bassline. I know Tom doesn't want to imitate Hook's sound. Maybe this will sound better live.

What I really miss are thick '80s drum machine sounds. The wimpy almost-a-hand-clap snare doesn't do it for me.

If they'd broken out the Oberheim drum machine, put Tom front and center, and strengthened the intro this would go down as a classic single.

It's catchy, I've listened to it on repeat quite a bit. The vocal melody is strong.


They'll just need another new song to release now in it's place, next year, in time for the tour! Happy



Who knows by next year maybe a new album with all the time they have spending inside and not touring or maybe a new single

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ROCKET MICK on 10/09/2020(UTC)
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#86 Posted : 11 September 2020 08:47:28(UTC)
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#87 Posted : 11 September 2020 10:09:05(UTC)
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It's actually really grown on me...was very dissapointed at first

It's missing a hook style bass though....it's not just his sound,it's new part of new orders as one of them said in an interview around the time of MC


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ROCKET MICK on 11/09/2020(UTC)
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#88 Posted : 11 September 2020 11:02:05(UTC)
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Reading the comments people left on the youtube video of Be a rebel so many people are Disappointed with the absence of Peter Hooks Guitar and his sound, but what can you do if the Band has separated, Yes Be A Rebel misses his signature bass for sure , But we can do nothing about it and this will be the NEW New Order sound from now on and many people will be upset by it especially people who like Joy Division and the Harder sound but Let's see What NO does next.
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#89 Posted : 11 September 2020 16:25:01(UTC)
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Well, he's certainly no Hooky but it gives a good glimpse of what it COULD have sounded like.

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#90 Posted : 11 September 2020 23:58:03(UTC)
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Sounds like a knuckle dragging thug turning up uninvited at a party and trying to put his choice of music on.
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ROCKET MICK on 13/09/2020(UTC)
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#91 Posted : 13 September 2020 06:44:08(UTC)
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track sounds more Pet Shop Boys, than New Order. really would fit well as the B-Side for "Did You See Me Coming?", actually.
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ROCKET MICK on 13/09/2020(UTC)
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#92 Posted : 13 September 2020 11:54:08(UTC)
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I've decided that it sounds like The Other Two with Bernard on guest vocals.
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#93 Posted : 13 September 2020 15:33:03(UTC)
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Sounds like New Order minus Peter Hooks signature Bass guitar.
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ROCKET MICK on 14/09/2020(UTC)
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#94 Posted : 14 September 2020 02:42:37(UTC)
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haha - this is hilarious. I actually kind of hope this is Hooky trolling Bernard big style

Nobody with ears could deny that it sounds a bazillion percent better like this

He should do the whole of Music Complete too


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ROCKET MICK on 14/09/2020(UTC)
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#95 Posted : 14 September 2020 07:38:06(UTC)
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We've all lived with the song long enough to have cemented our feelings towards it. I thought this was a rather fair review/appraisal of the track:

DailyCal.com

3.5 out of 5, lack of guitars noted (without mentioning you-know-who, which, to be fair, is very old news at this point), and simple but sincere lyrics.

Nail on the head.
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ROCKET MICK on 14/09/2020(UTC)
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#96 Posted : 14 September 2020 15:29:34(UTC)
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haha - this is hilarious. I actually kind of hope this is Hooky trolling Bernard big style

Nobody with ears could deny that it sounds a bazillion percent better like this

He should do the whole of Music Complete too




Hooky repeated his claim in an Instagram chat recently that he will play Music Complete live, even if it's just at the Factory club to an empty venue.
Personally I'd like to see/hear a recording of that. Well, I would if Hooky decides to add his own basslines.
Then maybe a clever person could edit the bass lines on to the album proper.
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#97 Posted : 14 September 2020 23:35:50(UTC)
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'Ian Curtis, the band’s frontman when it was known as Joy Division...' Life is an adventure. You just have to keep an open mind.
I've only heard the song once and it's OK. They're usually growers anyway, but I hate listening to music via downloads. Sounds more like Electronic circa Second to None or the Pet Shop Boys circa 1983 up to now, but that might be a good thing after the London trilogy. Yes, very Other Two.
I also lost interest in the Pets over the years. I had pretty much everything up to It's Alright (sic), and then I was like my mother (on and off for ten years). After Bilingual I just couldn't be arsed. The End of the World is worthy of the first Electronic album, though.
I always hated Hooky, but then I saw the Light.
I always hated The Pet Shop Boys' music, but then I discovered It's Alright.
I always hated One Direction.
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ROCKET MICK on 15/09/2020(UTC)
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#98 Posted : 15 September 2020 19:55:17(UTC)
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I decided not to comment on the first listen and wait. I've played it a few times now and it's really grown on me with each play. For me, it has a reminiscince in it. It wouldn't have fitted on Music Complete. It's got quite a different feel to it which takes me back to earlier times. I've ordered the vinyl. Just a shame I have to wait 2 months for it. 😕
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ROCKET MICK on 16/09/2020(UTC)
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#99 Posted : 16 September 2020 12:06:00(UTC)
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This song is standing up really well to repeated listens. Gone from thinking it was an ok song to now a great song. Looking forward to the 12”.
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ROCKET MICK on 16/09/2020(UTC)
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#100 Posted : 16 September 2020 13:22:07(UTC)
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This song is standing up really well to repeated listens. Gone from thinking it was an ok song to now a great song. Looking forward to the 12”.


Very True. I am really enjoying listening to Be A Rebel

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