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#426 Posted : 05 January 2020 10:29:55(UTC)
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I'm a Bowie fan and Cat People is a favourite (the original, not the Let's Dance LP re-recording) so noticed it straight away. I think it was noted on the Gigography or Setlist.fm at the time but can't be bothered to search it out.

They had also incorporated Iggy Pop's The Passenger into the intro of True Faith at that Irvine Meadows Substance gig in 1987...

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Mind you, that Bowie Cat People video has credits right at the start: words and singing, Bowie; music: Georgio Moroder...
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Bernard contributes to two tracks: BroadwayWorld.com
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Oh Kim's such a beautiful soul.One lovely, beautiful soul.She's just the best.Talks about Unknown Pleasures at the end of this.And also Spacemen 3, a band from my humble small town Rugby here in England.Well they're from the 80s and of course featuring Jason Pierce who went on to great success with Spiritualized.
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Nice spot. Thanks.

Stephen & Gillian did one of these a few years back, in case anyone didn't know.
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The Financial Times has an article today: "Blue Monday - NO's track was a watershed moment in British Pop".
I could read it on my phone feed, but when I call it up on my PC it asks me to sign up to a subscription, so I haven't done a link. There's a free version that allows 3 articles a month.
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There's an Instagram filter going around right now that determines "what New Order album are you?"

I'd be sad if I got Get Ready or Lost Sirens.
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Not so much spotting but more learning of a tenuous link between The Shamen and New Order that i hadn't known of before.The woman in the catsuit in The Shamen's Ebeneezer Goode video is the same woman as in NO's Spooky Video, Tamzin Haughton.Never ever made the connection.And never clocked it's the same director, Richard Heslop.The 2 videos have a similar fast forward speeded up style so that was obviously a technique the director was into at that time.I just never made the connection until now!
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I think I knew that, but had forgotten. Cheers for the reminder.

This has just been posted to Youtube. It's the 'Riverside' interview with Mike Andrews, but for the first time that I've ever seen, it has Andrews' introduction:


As I posted in the comments, it's interesting to note that, despite Hooky saying that 'Riverside' asked New Order for the interview, Andrews states in his introduction that the band contacted 'Riverside'. I tend to believe Hooky on this; I can't see New Order going out of their way to play the 'interview game' back in 1983.
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Not so much spotting but more learning of a tenuous link between The Shamen and New Order that i hadn't known of before.The woman in the catsuit in The Shamen's Ebeneezer Goode video is the same woman as in NO's Spooky Video


I've got a tenuous Shamen/catsut link too!

I remember seeing the Shamen live at a student ball in the early 90s. At the time Plavka was a member of The Shamen and she wore a leather or PVC catsuit that night. You can see her in the Shamen's HyperReal video, where she doesn't look nearly as hot as she did that night (or at least as I remember it). She then went on to be part of Jam & Spoon's setup. Here she is doing Right In The Night with them. What's this got to do with NO? F*ck all really, although J&S did remix NO in '95. I just wanted to share an old w*nk bank memory!

PS The Shamen's music really hasn't aged very well.

PPS I still like J&S's Tripomatic Fairytales.

PPPS That speeded up video style in Spooky and Ebeneezer Goode was annoying.

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Not so much spotting but more learning of a tenuous link between The Shamen and New Order that i hadn't known of before.The woman in the catsuit in The Shamen's Ebeneezer Goode video is the same woman as in NO's Spooky Video


I've got a tenuous Shamen/catsut link too!

I remember seeing the Shamen live at a student ball in the early 90s. At the time Plavka was a member of The Shamen and she wore a leather or PVC catsuit that night. You can see her in the Shamen's HyperReal video, where she doesn't look nearly as hot as she did that night (or at least as I remember it). She then went on to be part of Jam & Spoon's setup. Here she is doing Right In The Night with them. What's this got to do with NO? F*ck all really, although J&S did remix NO in '95. I just wanted to share an old w*nk bank memory!

PS The Shamen's music really hasn't aged very well.

PPS I still like J&S's Tripomatic Fairytales.

PPPS That speeded up video style in Spooky and Ebeneezer Goode was annoying.



Oh yes i remember Plavka being involved with The Shamen but not sure i remember her on that Jam & Spoon track.I mean, i remember the song and there being a female vocal on it but can't recall if i realised it was the same female that had been involved with The Shamen, or maybe i'd long forgotten.

I was into The Shamen around 90-91.Saw them live twice, both times at Coventry Polytechnic (Colin Angus was actually right by us in the Polytechnic bar pre gig on one of the occasions) Edit: the second time, the 1991 gig, was at Coventry Tik Tok club, not the Poly .First time was in 1990 around the time of their En-Tact album which i recall had some good stuff on.Second time was in 1991 when Mr C had become involved with them.Can't remember for sure now but i guess the first time i saw them in 1990 they must have had Plavka with them on stage.I definitely remember one of the gigs she was with them then.I guess the second time in 1991 she must have left and Mr bloody C was then on board.I don't think they'd written Ebeneezer Goode at the time i saw them in 91, that single came out in 1992.Went right off them with their Boss Drum album.Just thought the music went to shit with that album, though LSI was pretty good.Think i gave my CD of Boss Drum away to a mate who had got into them through Ebeneezer Goode.EG was just a fun novelty hit but i was done with them really around that time.Maybe when Will Sinnot died in summer 91 in that swimming accident it was the end of their innovative, forward looking music.But i do remember that 12" Land Of Oz remix of Move Any Mountain being pretty bloody good and i caned the track loud and a lot in the car around that time, summer 91.

Still have a few of their CDs and 12" singles, including HyperReal (Plavka looks pretty great in that vid!) .Never heard that Jam & Spoon Trypomatic Farytales album and yes those speeded up videos for
The Shamen's Ebeneezer Goode and NO's Spooky were pretty naff.

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I was slightly into The Shamen around the time of En:tact and my story is slightly NO related.

The first I heard of them was when I bought a VHS called ‘Indie Top Video (Take 4)’:

https://www.discogs.com/...ake-Four/release/2221727

I basically bought this to see the video for Revenge’s ‘Pineapple Face’. The track right after that was ‘Pro-gen’ (Move Any Mountain) and I really liked it.

Not long after that, I bought ‘Volume One’ a CD / book combo that had an exclusive remix of ‘Confusion’ on it, along with an interview with NO:

https://www.discogs.com/...olume-One/release/104947

The next track after ‘Confusion’?
‘Hyperreal’ by The Shamen.
I liked that too, so went out and bought ‘En:tact’.
I’d like to say I was bowled over by the LP but, to be honest, I wasn’t really. It wasn’t bad and I played it a bit. I still really liked those two tracks though (still do).
By the time of the next LP, I was a little put off by them being the ‘next big thing’, but did rather like the title track of ‘Boss Drum’.

I remember when that Jam & Spoon ‘Ride In The Night’ song came out featuring the lovely Plavka and recognised the name from the credits of En:tact. I bought the song and the follow up which also featured her (‘Find Me’) which was pretty reasonable too, IIRC.

I remember the video to ‘Right In The Night’ and thought that Plavka looked rather splendid in it.

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I listened to En-Tact at work yesterday. I really love it and all the associated singles.

I was doing the weekly dance music show for my college radio station at the time, and we were somehow given import copies. They weren’t commercially released over here until ‘91.

I’ve also got that CD magazine Volume One.

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PS The Shamen's music really hasn't aged very well.



Gave some of their old stuff a listen today and yep, it really hasn't aged well, has it.Stuff like Pro-Gen and LSI are still ok but a lot of it sounds shit now.
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Just a quick heads-up.

New Order's appearance on 'Top Of The Pops', playing 'Round & Round' is on telly tonight.

IIRC correctly, they were on first, so you don't have to wade through the usual dross to get to it.
(I caught last week's episode, which led with The Reynolds Girl's 'I'd Rather Jack... Than Fleetwood Mac'. Wonder where they are these days?)

Anyway, here's the link to the programme on iPlayer, which should be available after broadcast:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000f8x5
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Never seen this before.
Someone has animated the BM1988 flicker book:

https://www.instagram.co...amp;igshid=16u5tapjupe1b
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Never seen this before.
Someone has animated the BM1988 flicker book.


No, that’s just the book. There were a few for sale - I almost got one from eBay around 2005.
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Yeah.
What I meant was, someone has scanned each page from the book and then digitally 'flicked' them to show what it would be like if you were to actually flick the physical book (which, due to the ridiculous rarity of those books, few of us are ever likely to do).

I have a friend who has one, of which I'm insanely jealous.
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Yeah.
What I meant was, someone has scanned each page from the book and then digitally 'flicked' them to show what it would be like if you were to actually flick the physical book (which, due to the ridiculous rarity of those books, few of us are ever likely to do).

I have a friend who has one, of which I'm insanely jealous.



his book is in way better shape than mine.

mine was water damaged, so i got it dirt cheap (like $30 or $40):

so 6 years ago....


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That's pretty cool. Thanks for the share!

It's a shame that your copy is damaged. But better than nothing.

Didn't Factory initially send these out as Christmas cards or something?
If that's the case, there's a likelihood that quite a few of these ended up in the bin.
Depressing thought, eh?
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his book is in way better shape than mine.

mine was water damaged, so i got it dirt cheap (like $30 or $40):

so 6 years ago....




Good stuff.
Did you scan each page and then put the scans into some software?
How long did it take?
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Good stuff.
Did you scan each page and then put the scans into some software?
How long did it take?



scanned each page of the book,
and used scan tailor to crop, clean up, and color correct each page.

then assembled all the jpgs, into an animated GIF,
then also created an AVI video for youtube, and added sound.
not that hard.


article of book, and they used my video link:
https://flashbak.com/fac...ay-flipbook-1988-412085/

This brilliant cultural artefact was illustrated by two Americans: the avant-garde filmmaker and conceptualist Robert Breer (September 30, 1926 – August 11, 2011) and photographer Wiliam Wegman (born 1943). It’s bound so that the book slants to the left to enable easy flipping. On the front wrapper, in brightly colored titles, are the well wishers, including New Order, Fay, Breer, and Wegman. Only 350 were made, of which 250 were distributed.


ridiculously expensive copy for UKP 1000, in an auction, or sale:

https://www.maggs.com/ne...o-you-fac-235_216910.htm

ok, fine, its signed, but still not worth THAT much:

Crisp, clean copy, bumped corners. Rare. Matthew Robertson -Factory Records. The Complete Graphic Album, p149.

The full inscription, in white Tipp-Ex, on the lower board, reads:

"Happy New Year Bob Breer".

"Typically for Factory they went to great - some mighy say ridiculous - expense specifying at least six spot colours in addition to four-colour printing for the front cover" (op. cit.).

back in 2008, one sold for $50, with 2 bids on it.
https://www.popsike.com/...8-RARE/190199467207.html

i can't remember if that was when i got it....hmmm.


i have all my original source files, and there's only 30 or so scans,
i will zip them up, and post them for archivers.

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Not about Joy Division, but if Here Are The Young Men doesn't have any JD on the soundtrack, I for one shall be very disappointed.
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Pretty good new interview with Hooky.

Looks like a company have made a signature version of Hooky's Shergold Marathon.
Cool bass:





<<<<<News Flash: He's still a little irked by the rest of the band carrying on without him>>>>>>>>>

Still, it's an interesting watch.
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New audio interview with Bernard on Double J this morning.

He's in fine spirits and it's a nice interview:

https://www.abc.net.au/d...-bernard-sumner/12049558

The New Order segment starts at approximately 1 hour 3 minutes.

Enjoy!
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