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∑(No,12k,Lg,17Mif) New Order + Liam Gillick: So it goes.. is released on July 12th
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Bernard's vocals sound surprisingly good for a live show. Has he spent the last two years overdubbing them in the studio?  Apart from that (which I guess is not really a complaint) - I really enjoyed it. The new arrangement of YSF is beautiful, and Elegia...well let's just say I suspect Hooky won't be happy that they did such a fantastic job of what used to effectively be his big solo
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It really is a tremendous achievement. Even songs I don't normally care for (Who's Joe?, Behind Closed Doors) shine. The standouts for me are Times Change, Disorder, Subculture, Vanishing Point (especially how it segues out of Bizarre Love Triangle), and Your Silent Face, but I love the whole thing from top to bottom.
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If I could pick any one song from their entire discography I wish they'd included, it would be Special. I think it's a beautiful, underrated song, and would sound immense with the keyboard orchestra. They attempted to play it once on the Republic tour, but Barney botched the lyrics. :( Edited by user 15 July 2019 14:10:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 50 Pound Note  It really is a tremendous achievement ... I love the whole thing from top to bottom. Yep. Mind blown. Edited by user 16 July 2019 01:07:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 50 Pound Note Best f*cking band in the world. You know, I’ve been listening to some early gigs over the last few days. Ones where they run the likes of Everything’s Gone Green into 586 into Temptation, for one long medley, or the one where they did a 20 minute plus version of Ultraviolence. Incredible stuff. I have to agree; the most ridiculously brilliant band to ever exist. The MiF gigs are recent examples of their sublime talent.
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Has anyone redeemed their download inside the vinyl box-set, yet?
If so, what quality are the FLACs at?
I'm seeing Hi-Res digital versions of the album on sale sporting 44kHz/24-bit but I know Music Complete was redeemable in 96kHz/24-bit via code with the vinyl.
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I've downloaded them, and as far as I can tell these FLACs are 48kHz /24 Originally Posted by: NotAMod Has anyone redeemed their download inside the vinyl box-set, yet?
If so, what quality are the FLACs at?
I'm seeing Hi-Res digital versions of the album on sale sporting 44kHz/24-bit but I know Music Complete was redeemable in 96kHz/24-bit via code with the vinyl.
Cheers.
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Originally Posted by: 50 Pound Note If I could pick any one song from their entire discography I wish they'd included, it would be Special. I think it's a beautiful, underrated song, and would sound immense with the keyboard orchestra. They attempted to play it once on the Republic tour, but Barney botched the lyrics. :( Totally agree! Was thinking exactly this yesterday when I was listening to Hooky's Technique / Republic show on Spotify. He did a pretty good job of Special (and did the best he could with the rest of the Republic material) - much better than the unintentionally comical NO attempt you mentioned.
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Really enjoying the album. Live Hey Joe nags at me even more than usual, the feeling there is a truly great NO tune in there to be found – mainly in the refrain and the quick bass and synths – and they didn't quite find it.
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Originally Posted by: Debaser Originally Posted by: negative1
i still don't think anyone was actually asking to hear... dream attack, all day long, ...
I was. People have been crying out for Technique songs for years (it's clear you don't like the album much -1, but you're in the minority there). And All Day Long is one of my favourite NO songs; a great example of an album track that deserved a live airing. Absolutely love it. Fellow ADL fan checking in. Dead-set understated album track classic. There's a moment where the twanging country guitar bridge builds into the synth climax all over that pulsing electro beat that's pure majesty. Quintessential New Order 'indie meets dance' moment. Not sure how anyone can make sweeping statements like "I don't think anyone was actually asking to hear..". Especially in this company.
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Originally Posted by: depthcharge Not sure how anyone can make sweeping statements like "I don't think anyone was actually asking to hear..". Especially in this company. Consider the source.
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Trivia time.On the download code from the vinyl the mp3 of Your Silent Face is titled KW1, but not on the FLAC download.
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Originally Posted by: 50 Pound Note Originally Posted by: depthcharge Not sure how anyone can make sweeping statements like "I don't think anyone was actually asking to hear..". Especially in this company. Consider the source. seriously... All Day Long and Dream Attack are a few of my favorite new order tracks, fucking CLASSICS -1 most appreciating Subculture on this release "another stand out track, this is definitely one of the highlights of the show." tells me everything I need to know about his taste. |
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So I've been listening to this album for the past couple of weeks and I definitely think it's New Order's best produced live albums. The drums sound really strong (really don't know why Steve's drums sounded so flat on NOMC15), Barney actually sounds very good, and you can actually make out Tom's bass very well. There's a couple of things that gripe me with this album. 1. New Order is a band with now 3 guitarists - sometimes playing at the same time. I'm pretty sure Barney, Phil, and Gillian are all playing guitar on Dream Attack so why the do guitars sound so weak? 2. I think someone said it earlier about how you can't tell that there's a synth orchestra behind them because this was just an audio release. Maybe it would have been more effective if we could see the orchestra for in a video format? Since you know this was pretty much a multi-talented musical art installation. Because we could all be hearing backing tracks. I really think this was a great effort and this is the bands' best live album to date. Most of these songs show that New Order can still kick it and reinvent themselves. Maybe they should do the same with their current setlist. Edited by user 27 July 2019 09:54:43(UTC)
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I feel I need to chime back in in light of my negative comment above. I love this album, this is a fantastic show I wish I was at. I’ve bought the other recent live albums (bestival, there’s another one, yes?) and listened to those once or twice. This is on heavy rotation in the LostSiren household.Shellshock, Ultraviolence, subculture, disorder and behind closed doors are huge standouts for me.
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Originally Posted by: tarbox23
-1 most appreciating Subculture
on this release
"another stand out track,
this is definitely one
of the highlights of the show."
tells me everything
I need to know
about his taste.
I don't agree with -1's assessment of the album, but to be fair, 'Sub-culture' is a revelation and by far the best track on this album. Such a surprise to see it in the setlist and a dynamic and playful arrangement. Edited by user 27 July 2019 15:28:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: LostSiren I feel I need to chime back in in light of my negative comment above. I love this album, this is a fantastic show I wish I was at. I’ve bought the other recent live albums (bestival, there’s another one, yes?) and listened to those once or twice. This is on heavy rotation in the LostSiren household.Shellshock, Ultraviolence, subculture, disorder and behind closed doors are huge standouts for me.
Best band on the planet. I wasn't really trying to be negative. I do think it's a wonderful live album. The synths and instrumentation sound very full and we'll mixed. I personally listen to a lot of bands that heavily use guitars and I understand New Order isn't that band, but still I know they can do it. Every single song on here was executed great, especially SubCulture, Shellshock, BLT, Vanishing, and the real bohemeth of the album, Decades. Live at Bestival was a great live effort too, but something about NOMC15's production just felt off. Also, after finally seeing New Order for the first time ever this year in Miami, they are a band that sound sonically great.
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Originally Posted by: tarbox23 Originally Posted by: 50 Pound Note Originally Posted by: depthcharge Not sure how anyone can make sweeping statements like "I don't think anyone was actually asking to hear..". Especially in this company. Consider the source. -1 most appreciating Subculture on this release "another stand out track, this is definitely one of the highlights of the show." tells me everything I need to know about his taste. that's fine, that you have your own tastes. but for the MIF concerts, i think you missed the point of it: This special series of intimate shows took over Stage 1 of Manchester’s iconic Old Granada Studios for five nights in June 2017. Created in collaboration with visual artist Liam Gillick, who has previously presented solo exhibitions at venues such as Tate Britain and MoMA in New York; and orchestrated by composer-arranger Joe Duddell, a fellow son of Manchester and a frequent collaborator with the band, the live show was performed by the band with a 12-strong synthesiser ensemble from the Royal Northern College of Music. so a concert that is mostly based on multiple synths, with a song like sub-culture is out of place? or bad? really. and that's the song they put out first to showcase this. maybe, you would prefer appreciating 'whos joe', or the joy division tracks instead. later -1 Edited by user 29 July 2019 06:29:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NotAMod Has anyone redeemed their download inside the vinyl box-set, yet?
If so, what quality are the FLACs at?
I'm seeing Hi-Res digital versions of the album on sale sporting 44kHz/24-bit but I know Music Complete was redeemable in 96kHz/24-bit via code with the vinyl.
Cheers. I just got the vinyl set but so far I don't see anything about downloading the digital copy, was there a card or something for that? Never mind. I just noticed a little sticker on the bottom corner of the jacket for the first album. Edited by user 13 August 2019 14:34:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NYGuy1975 I just got the vinyl set Mine arrived today, too.
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Great stuff. Glad you finally got it.
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Late follow-up but fuck me, that CD is, in the words of Sylvia Plath, fucking awesome. How cool to hear them FINALLY dig out gems like Ultraviolence, Times Change and Vanishing Point, and not a single Blue Bumday, True Faith Perfuckedo or Temptazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzion in sight. Even oldie BLT gets a reworking. With Music Complete and these gigs, they were finally ON again. Bet you never thought I'd say anything positive eh? Edited by user 08 February 2020 05:38:31(UTC)
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