The last few days, I've been revisiting the wonderful Recycle project and listening to the various mixes included on them.

I'd forgotten how good some of these are: TLU Instrumental, Kiss Of Death, Dub-Vulture*, Shame Of The Nation, Paradise Remix etc.

Anyway, listening to 'Shellcock', I'm convinced that Gillian's vocals are on it in one place. I had always assumed that the only songs she sang on were Procession, Doubts Even Here and Avalanche.

I'd be interested to hear whether anyone else thinks I'm right.

It occurs around the 2:55-3:00 minute mark, where she says 'That's The Way' a couple of times, as backing vocals to Barney.

Here's a copy of the song if you don't have it (it was the B-side to the 12", if you didn't already know):


So, I'm wondering that if her vocals appear on this, maybe they're on the actual 7" or 12" and these old ears can't pick them out. Anyone know?

Just checked Wikipedia and it says her vocals appear on Confusion too. Can't say I've noticed them. Anyone know?



* Yeah, yeah, yeah - I know that Dub-Vulture (and it's A-Side) aren't liked by many, but I really love how the mix devolves from pop song to rampaging monster by the end of it.

Edited by user 24 October 2018 11:45:01(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Yeah. I’d have really liked her to sing lead on a track or two. She has a really sweet voice.

I see what you’re saying, but it still really sounds like her to me. Especially on the ‘way’ part. Sounds just like her vocals on Tasty Fish. You can almost hear the Manc accent.
It certainly sounds like a different vocalist to Sub-Culture to me. But I’m probably wrong.

I think you’re right about Barney doing falsetto on True Faith. I was listening to True Dub earlier and it’s really noticeable on that mix (from around the 4:43 mark onwards). Quite odd.

Edited by user 24 October 2018 14:05:52(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Just read the following interview with Stephen Hague on True Faith:

http://web.archive.org/w...ticles/classictracks.htm

"'True Faith' didn't have much in the way of backing vocals — Barney and I both sang the high octave part on the chorus, and he was fairly quick with whatever vocals he did. When we did lead vocals he recorded five or six takes and I compiled them."

So it looks like both Barney and Hague did the high parts of the chorus.

'After the suicide of lead singer Ian Curtis, Joy Division bass player Peter Hook, guitarist Bernard Sumner and drummer Stephen Morris had recruited keyboardist Gillian Gilbert and formed New Order, with Sumner on vocals.'
I always liked DubVulture, though it's not one for the purists. Kiss of Death is good too, especially the orgasm bit, but WTF is Perfect Pit? Good stuff, though as even Morris admitted in 1993, dub excursions are essentially filler. FOUR World instrumentals was milking it...

This part of the article struck me:



I really think Gillian is the secret weapon in the band (despite what Peter says).

^^^^^ THIS times 1,000

Gillian is the heart of the band.