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#1 Posted : 30 July 2012 18:28:02(UTC)
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Maybe he should listen more

IMHO they are getting better with every performance. Want to see a great singer? Go see the three tenors, oopss two tenors.
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#2 Posted : 30 July 2012 18:53:52(UTC)
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What would Bloomberg (I think it's a business site/publication) know about music and concerts? In other words, ignore the shit, and move on. We know what good music is, they don't. Cool Hi
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#3 Posted : 30 July 2012 20:02:30(UTC)
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What would Bloomberg (I think it's a business site/publication) know about music and concerts? In other words, ignore the shit, and move on. We know what good music is, they don't. Cool Hi


You tell em Eimi!
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#4 Posted : 31 July 2012 00:04:03(UTC)
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Gazman wrote:
leather-girl wrote:
What would Bloomberg (I think it's a business site/publication) know about music and concerts? In other words, ignore the shit, and move on. We know what good music is, they don't. Cool Hi


You tell em Eimi!


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ROCKET MICK on 03/08/2012(UTC)
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#5 Posted : 31 July 2012 03:16:44(UTC)
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The biggest travesty is the new version of the 1983 single “Blue Monday,” which prefigured the electronic house-music explosion of the 1990s.


"New version"? The version of Blue Monday they perform now is as close to the original 1983 12" as possible; it sounds pretty authentic even to someone with only a passing acquaintance to the track. The guy's entitled to his opinion, if he didn't enjoy the gig then that's fair enough but claiming the version of Blue Monday is "new" and a "travesty" is slightly bewildering because it's factually inaccurate.

He might have a small point regarding venue sound. The first night of Brixton a couple of months ago was pretty terrible sound-wise but that's not exactly something I would blame the band for. I spent most of that gig staring at the mixing desk wondering if they had a fucking clue what they were doing.

One bad review in a sea of (mostly) good ones isn't the end of the world.

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#6 Posted : 31 July 2012 03:22:48(UTC)
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NotAMod wrote:
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The biggest travesty is the new version of the 1983 single “Blue Monday,” which prefigured the electronic house-music explosion of the 1990s.


"New version"? The version of Blue Monday they perform now is as close to the original 1983 12" as possible; it sounds pretty authentic even to someone with only a passing acquaintance to the track. The guy's entitled to his opinion, if he didn't enjoy the gig then that's fair enough but claiming the version of Blue Monday is "new" and a "travesty" is slightly bewildering because it's factually inaccurate.

He might have a small point regarding venue sound. The first night of Brixton a couple of months ago was pretty terrible sound-wise but that's not exactly something I would blame the band for. I spent most of that gig staring at the mixing desk wondering if they had a fucking clue what they were doing.

One bad review in a sea of (mostly) good ones isn't the end of the world.


Agreed.
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ROCKET MICK on 03/08/2012(UTC)
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#7 Posted : 31 July 2012 11:10:50(UTC)
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Its a bit late in the day for me to start giving a shit about New Order reviews.

Especially from sources Ive never frigging heard of.
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ROCKET MICK on 03/08/2012(UTC)
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#8 Posted : 31 July 2012 14:16:15(UTC)
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NotAMod wrote:


He might have a small point regarding venue sound. The first night of Brixton a couple of months ago was pretty terrible sound-wise but that's not exactly something I would blame the band for. I spent most of that gig staring at the mixing desk wondering if they had a fucking clue what they were doing.



I'm starting to think the band do have to take some of the blame for the sound mixing. I saw the Mondays at Brixton later on in May (having been to the second NO night) and the sound mixing was so much better for the Mondays, i just thought: you cant blame the venue. I've seen Blondie a couple of times in recent years and not been impressed by their sound either. Maybe it's difficult to sack your sound man if they have been with you for some time, but both NO and Blondie could do better IMO.

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ROCKET MICK on 03/08/2012(UTC)
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#9 Posted : 01 August 2012 00:40:43(UTC)
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The Horrors played Brixton recently and a lad I know who was at the NO gig, said they had the same challenges which NO faced.

To be honest, I don't understand the technicalities at play here to offer an informed opinion. But there is a growing list of bands here that are having difficulties at Brixton and how come they don't have sound issues at other venues? Certainly New Order don't.
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#10 Posted : 03 August 2012 04:19:07(UTC)
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NotAMod wrote:
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The biggest travesty is the new version of the 1983 single “Blue Monday,” which prefigured the electronic house-music explosion of the 1990s.


"New version"? The version of Blue Monday they perform now is as close to the original 1983 12" as possible; it sounds pretty authentic even to someone with only a passing acquaintance to the track. The guy's entitled to his opinion, if he didn't enjoy the gig then that's fair enough but claiming the version of Blue Monday is "new" and a "travesty" is slightly bewildering because it's factually inaccurate.

He might have a small point regarding venue sound. The first night of Brixton a couple of months ago was pretty terrible sound-wise but that's not exactly something I would blame the band for. I spent most of that gig staring at the mixing desk wondering if they had a fucking clue what they were doing.

One bad review in a sea of (mostly) good ones isn't the end of the world.



maybe he's only familiar with blue monday '98?
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#11 Posted : 03 August 2012 08:36:27(UTC)
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hibster wrote:
maybe he's only familiar with blue monday '98?


Blue Monday '88?

Speaking of travesties... always thought that mix was audio vandalism.

Still do.

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#12 Posted : 03 August 2012 14:39:56(UTC)
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NotAMod wrote:
hibster wrote:
maybe he's only familiar with blue monday '98?


Blue Monday '88?

Speaking of travesties... always thought that mix was audio vandalism.

Still do.


Agreed. It's not very good.
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ROCKET MICK on 04/08/2012(UTC)
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#13 Posted : 04 August 2012 07:15:45(UTC)
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NotAMod wrote:

Speaking of travesties...


I read that as 'transvestites' at first and thought "whit th fu.."
then i re read it Laugh

as you were...

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#14 Posted : 04 August 2012 08:07:52(UTC)
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Gazman wrote:
NotAMod wrote:

Speaking of travesties...


I read that as 'transvestites' at first and thought "whit th fu.."
then i re read it Laugh

as you were...



Big Grin that's funny!
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ROCKET MICK on 04/08/2012(UTC)
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#15 Posted : 21 August 2012 05:37:46(UTC)
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I think the real problem is the reviewer didn't even see New Order. Either that, or this was ghost written by Peter Hook.
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#16 Posted : 22 August 2012 21:42:35(UTC)
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from all the videos and bootlegs
i've heard so far..

the reviewer is right in many ways..

the greatest hits shows don't show
off the great catalogue of songs
they have

newer versions of the songs don't
sound great compared to any of
the older versions.. (except
maybe 586)...

go listen to any of the recent
concerts posted at the new order
stash archive, and you'll hear
a lot better concerts.

bernard used to be a lot more
adventurous fun, and unique,
with lots of improvs, and adlibs.
with interesting things to say.
he sure doesn't do that anymore..


yeah, a few songs still have
some strength in them..


with all that being said,

i'm still going to see them live
at least once..

hopefully, they'll be a lot better
than i expect, but i don't have
very high expectations..

i've seen them twice before in 1985,
and 1987.. and the 1985 show was
amazing.. the 1987 show was just
average...

later
-1
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ROCKET MICK on 28/08/2012(UTC)
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#17 Posted : 22 August 2012 22:44:19(UTC)
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negative1 wrote:
the greatest hits shows don't show
off the great catalogue of songs
they have

That applies to pretty much any band thats been going for a certain amount of time.
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