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#26 Posted : 19 October 2015 20:42:00(UTC)
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Absolutely adoring the 11:47 Hot Chip Remix. Leagues ahead of anything in the Restless Remix package, I'd say.
It does that magic thing only the very greatest of remixes accomplish. While staying pleasantly close to the charm and energy of the original, the mix still finds a way to reinvent the track, presenting it in a whole new, glorious light. In this way, it's similar to Mr. Shep Pettibone's seminal reworkings of Bizarre Love Triangle and Truth Faith. Though - as the track has just been revealed - this may be a gushing statement.

Regardless, the Hot Chip Remix is damn rad. Rad, I say!



I am so excited by the Louis Van Gaal 442 remix at 90mins. Superb.

Let's all wave our arms about !
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ROCKET MICK on 19/10/2015(UTC)
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#27 Posted : 19 October 2015 21:25:06(UTC)
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The EP(!) has turned up on Apple Music this morning. Should keep me entertained at work today :)
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ROCKET MICK on 19/10/2015(UTC)
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#28 Posted : 20 October 2015 01:35:18(UTC)
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I have no idea how iTunes determined this was an EP as the total running time would have to be over 25 minutes.

Have New Order ever had an EP?
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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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#29 Posted : 20 October 2015 03:49:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: thehim Go to Quoted Post
I have no idea how iTunes determined this was an EP as the total running time would have to be over 25 minutes.

Have New Order ever had an EP?


The 1981-1982 EP springs to mind. At any rate, Tutti Frutti clearly isn't an EP, it's a single.

iTunes have been (mis)designating Singles as EPs since their inception; it's obviously " their way of doing things" and rarely reflects reality.

Anyway I won't go on an anti-Apple rant but there are a wealth of other digital music stores out there to try Smile
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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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#30 Posted : 20 October 2015 05:33:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NotAMod Go to Quoted Post
iTunes have been (mis)designating Singles as EPs since their inception; it's obviously " their way of doing things" and rarely reflects reality.

Anyway I won't go on an anti-Apple rant but there are a wealth of other digital music stores out there to try Smile


Qobuz are selling it cheaper, and in lossless FLAC. However, they call it an Album.
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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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#31 Posted : 20 October 2015 06:24:23(UTC)
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I'm assuming the 4.17 mix is the radio edit? Like i commented earlier a lot of the good, fun and charming bits have been removed in my opinion.Also the great intro of the album version has been replaced by a kind of generic housey piano thing that just sounds like a million other chart friendly sounds around these days.Bit of a cop out that in my humble opinion.Still, it's no worse than hundreds of other songs in the charts or clubs.
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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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#32 Posted : 20 October 2015 06:24:47(UTC)
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£0.69 per track on Amazon. Not really that keen on the Hot Chip remix. I see this track as a club banger and would have liked to see that enhanced with the drums etc. Rather unnecessarily long too.
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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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#33 Posted : 20 October 2015 06:30:55(UTC)
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Feels like Mute/NO are a bit trigger happy releasing it only a week or so after the Restless CD release.Will we see Superheated plus remixes released next week?Laugh
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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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#34 Posted : 20 October 2015 06:48:10(UTC)
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Only 17 days to go now until the box set gets released. I think they might throw in an extended remix around the release date (06/11).
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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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#35 Posted : 20 October 2015 06:55:10(UTC)
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I got it off iTunes on my phone, and it didn't come with cover. For something off iTunes that's not cool. Now I have to go to iTunes on the computer (what year is this?) and download a cover and plug my phone into the computer??? And manually do it my self. I had to do this with Music Complete from the NO store as well. Come on NO, get with it.
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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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#36 Posted : 20 October 2015 07:03:59(UTC)
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Update: I just restarted my phone and the song artwork appeared. Oh Apple, is there anything you can't do?
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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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#37 Posted : 20 October 2015 07:04:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Fotzepolitic Go to Quoted Post
I'm assuming the 4.17 mix is the radio edit? Like i commented earlier a lot of the good, fun and charming bits have been removed in my opinion.Also the great intro of the album version has been replaced by a kind of generic housey piano thing that just sounds like a million other chart friendly sounds around these days.Bit of a cop out that in my humble opinion.Still, it's no worse than hundreds of other songs in the charts or clubs.


Yes, agreed, the edit is just a less exciting version of the album version.

Originally Posted by: BazG Go to Quoted Post
£0.69 per track on Amazon. Not really that keen on the Hot Chip remix. I see this track as a club banger and would have liked to see that enhanced with the drums etc. Rather unnecessarily long too.


Don't agree. Hot Chip remix is fucking Ace. It was never gonna be a track that competes with present day club bangers. Too slow. And speeding it up would be a baaaad idea. Hot Chip have managed to keep plenty of the original track and then added to it in an unforced way. If I were young enough to go to Space in Ibiza, this would be a perfect Sunday track to groove to.
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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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#38 Posted : 20 October 2015 07:09:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jim Go to Quoted Post
plug my phone into the computer??? And manually do it my self.


No bluetooth on your PC? What year is this?

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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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#39 Posted : 20 October 2015 07:11:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Sage_ Go to Quoted Post
those hashtag videos are bogus, they're automatically generated.
for Electronic there are dozens of them that have no content.


The video I embedded yesterday works now.


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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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#40 Posted : 20 October 2015 07:21:14(UTC)
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I'm assuming the 4.17 mix is the radio edit? Like i commented earlier a lot of the good, fun and charming bits have been removed in my opinion.Also the great intro of the album version has been replaced by a kind of generic housey piano thing that just sounds like a million other chart friendly sounds around these days.Bit of a cop out that in my humble opinion.Still, it's no worse than hundreds of other songs in the charts or clubs.


Yes, agreed, the edit is just a less exciting version of the album version.



Thanks. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.

And the chorus seems to be repeated one too many times. Should have dropped it nearer the end and had more of the Camerata strings to the fore. God I'm not being very positive about this version am i. Ok what can I find positive about it.... erm..... Nope, struggling here

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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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#41 Posted : 20 October 2015 07:55:21(UTC)
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Don't agree. Hot Chip remix is fucking Ace. It was never gonna be a track that competes with present day club bangers. Too slow. And speeding it up would be a baaaad idea. Hot Chip have managed to keep plenty of the original track and then added to it in an unforced way. If I were young enough to go to Space in Ibiza, this would be a perfect Sunday track to groove to.


Tutti Frutti is 120 bpm. Hot Chip have actually slowed it down marginally to 119 bpm. Route '94's My Love is 120 bpm. White Noise by Disclosure/Alunageorge 120 bpm also. Just as examples. It would make an ideal club track, in my opinion of course.
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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BazG Go to Quoted Post
White Noise by Disclosure/Alunageorge 120 bpm also. Just as examples. It would make an ideal club track, in my opinion of course.


It's a different energy though isn't it? Even New Order originally called the track Slow Disco.

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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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It's a different energy though isn't it? Even New Order originally called the track Slow Disco.



Depends what you're into I suppose. Dance music has many different forms and energies. When I first heard Tutti Frutti and Plastic, I regarded them both as the songs that would work well in clubs.

In comparison, something like Par-t-one's track I'm so crazy, seems quite slow, but is in fact 124 bpm, and a great dance track. Most house music tracks range from 120 - 128 bpm. I'll be interested to see what other remixes of this track materialise.
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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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#44 Posted : 20 October 2015 10:44:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BazG Go to Quoted Post

Tutti Frutti is 120 bpm. Hot Chip have actually slowed it down marginally to 119 bpm. Route '94's My Love is 120 bpm. White Noise by Disclosure/Alunageorge 120 bpm also. Just as examples. It would make an ideal club track, in my opinion of course.


interesting, i get these numbers

album 118.4 bpm
single edit 119.6
hot chip remix 118.4

for fun i made a sped up edit of the hot chip remix to match the single:
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http://forums.neworderon...ts&m=20196#post20196

later
-1
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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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I like it not bad at all, good long chill remix
I promise to make you so alive that the fall of dust on furniture will deafen you. Nina Cassian
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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: negative1 Go to Quoted Post


interesting, i get these numbers

album 118.4 bpm
single edit 119.6
hot chip remix 118.4

for fun i made a sped up edit of the hot chip remix to match the single:
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http://forums.neworderon...ts&m=20196#post20196

later
-1


http://www.junodownload....tutti-frutti/2917444-02/
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Originally Posted by: negative1 Go to Quoted Post


interesting, i get these numbers

album 118.4 bpm
single edit 119.6
hot chip remix 118.4

for fun i made a sped up edit of the hot chip remix to match the single:
===========================================
http://forums.neworderon...ts&m=20196#post20196

later
-1


http://www.junodownload....tutti-frutti/2917444-02/


yes, they match my numbers, slightly rounded off.

later
-1
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ROCKET MICK on 20/10/2015(UTC)
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The Hot Chip remix is very very good. I would even say this: New Order music has not brought an excitement like this since their 80s output. I mean, they've recorded a lot of awesome songs since 1989, but those did not stop me in tracks, like "wow, what is that sound, how is it made??" This remix reminds me of "Confusion" and Shep Pettybone's "Bizarre Love Triangle".

That being said, however, it seems that they threw in way too many cool ideas and compressed into one track, not allowing them enough time to develop on their own (even with a 11-minute duration), so it sounds quite fragmented.
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ROCKET MICK on 21/10/2015(UTC)
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#49 Posted : 20 October 2015 19:13:46(UTC)
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Man, this song is actually pretty good and so is the hot chip version..... When I first hearde the album this was my least favorite but it has grown on me quite a bit... It reminds me of what they used to sound like and now actually do!!
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ROCKET MICK on 21/10/2015(UTC)
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Only today when we were out shopping, my 9-year old daughter admitted to me that she keep hearing "that bouncy song with a man's deep voice talking" inside her head all day long...Big Grin

...funny though, i've been playing MC quite a bit around house since its release...but only Tutti Frutti stood out for some.....
what a tutti frutti world of colours!!!
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