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#26 Posted : 09 September 2015 08:33:27(UTC)
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The Restless 12'' and the CD single are available now on store.neworder.com (don't know if they ship to Australia)

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The first pressing only will be green vinyl.



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The CD single includes limited edition slipcase to hold all future CD singles from ‘Music Complete’. The slipcase will only be available from the New Order store.

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£2.99 shipping? WTF? Even though i'm in the UK? £2.99 shipping for a £4.99 cd single that only has 2 tracks on (Restless and Restless Agoria mix which i don't really want anyway) I was only going to get it for the slipcase.Think i'll give it a miss.Tossers.
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ROCKET MICK on 10/09/2015(UTC)
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#28 Posted : 09 September 2015 09:34:45(UTC)
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Oh, in the details it does state you get all the mixes but even so £2.99 shipping for a cd single? WTF
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#29 Posted : 09 September 2015 10:13:00(UTC)
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So, another option is to just download the 6 tracks for £2.99...and there will be nothing to ship Wink
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ROCKET MICK on 10/09/2015(UTC)
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Hmm they must have added these Restless options recently. I couldn't see this stuff when I started googling for physical stuff and finding it on Piccadilly Records and Rough Trade's sites (as per a previous post here). I tweeted the official NO twitter too and they didn't reply. Bit annoying as I've already placed orders elsewhere...
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#31 Posted : 09 September 2015 10:50:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: In A Noisy Place Go to Quoted Post
So, another option is to just download the 6 tracks for £2.99...and there will be nothing to ship Wink


Well yeah, but i like to collect the actual physical cds, vinyl etc when it comes to New Order and i'd like to have the slipcase thing. I've calmed down a bit now and guess i'll shell out like a mug the almost £8 for the cd and shipping. It's just, i don't know, is it normally nearly £3 to ship a cd single? I don't really buy cd singles online only cd albums so maybe £3 is the going rate but it's usually less than that to ship a cd album isn't it? A cd single in a jewel case is exactly the same size and weight as a cd album in a jewel case i suppose.

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#32 Posted : 09 September 2015 11:13:58(UTC)
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It's just, i don't know, is it normally nearly £3 to ship a cd single? I don't really buy cd singles online only cd albums so maybe £3 is the going rate but it's usually less than that to ship a cd album isn't it? A cd single in a jewel case is exactly the same size and weight as a cd album in a jewel case i suppose.


Fair point. It's £1.26 for a standard CD album on Amazon. Why should it be three quid for this?
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Also cheaper to pre order Music Complete CD from Amazon (which i did) than from the NewOrder store.Although you could then get into the politics of Amazon paying their employees crap wages.
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And you can argue that if you buy Music Complete CD from the NewOrder store you also get the HD and MP3 download included which you wouldn't get from Amazon but i will get them anyway because i ordered the Deluxe Box set.Only really bought the cd from Amazon so i can see and have the cd booklet on 25th September.Though maybe there'll be a digital booklet with the HD download? Then i really will have wasted my money buying the CD.

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Well...

The CD single is £6.54 + £1.26 postage on Amazon which is £7.80 total.

From the New Order store it's £4.99 + £2.99 postage which is £7.98.

So for £0.18 extra you get the limited edition slipcase.

Glad I only ordered the limited vinyl from Piccadilly Records now and left the CD. Just ordered it from the official store.

I suppose it depends what the slipcase is made of, how many CD's it's designed to hold, and how it's packaged that determines the postage price. It could be flat packed cardboard or ready made from other materials. I don't see any info about this yet.

Can you not cancel your original order for this @Fotzepolitic from the source you placed it with as it's only a pre order? You can with Amazon. Depends on their terms and conditions I suppose.

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#36 Posted : 09 September 2015 20:23:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BazG Go to Quoted Post
Well...

The CD single is £6.54 + £1.26 postage on Amazon which is £7.80 total.

From the New Order store it's £4.99 + £2.99 postage which is £7.98.

So for £0.18 extra you get the limited edition slipcase.


Can you not cancel your original order for this @Fotzepolitic from the source you placed it with as it's only a pre order? You can with Amazon. Depends on their terms and conditions I suppose.


Fair enough.Thanks for the info. I hadn't gone through with the order yet on the NewOrder store but wil probably do so now as Amazon isn't really much better.
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#37 Posted : 09 September 2015 21:13:50(UTC)
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I've just think about that: Will not the Restless green vinyl be exactly the same as the one included in the deluxe vinyl box of Music Complete ? Skeptic
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#38 Posted : 09 September 2015 23:52:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: In A Noisy Place Go to Quoted Post
I've just think about that: Will not the Restless green vinyl be exactly the same as the one included in the deluxe vinyl box of Music Complete ? Skeptic


Besides the 2 pcs of vinyl within the box set that contain the album, the remaining 6 pcs will carry the extended mixes of the 11 tracks. 2 tracks per physical copy, the final one being one-sided.

The 12" copy of Restless available to pre order now is 2 sided and therefore a different item than the one that will be included in the box set.

I have confirmation of this also from Mute.

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ROCKET MICK on 10/09/2015(UTC)
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#39 Posted : 10 September 2015 07:45:28(UTC)
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Just ordered several items and was wondering when to expect the 2 X Clear Vinyl and CD via Standard Post! I go away on the 26th September for a week and doubt they will arrive on the actual day of release? The 12 inch and CD X 2 single that I ordered aren't released till 9th October so no problem here.Cheers Rocket Mick
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Just ordered several items and was wondering when to expect the 2 X Clear Vinyl and CD via Standard Post! I go away on the 26th September for a week and doubt they will arrive on the actual day of release? The 12 inch and CD X 2 single that I ordered aren't released till 9th October so no problem here.Cheers Rocket Mick


It depends on where you've ordered them from really. Amazon for instance should deliver on the day of release. Other places who have a courier service in place for an extra fee most likely might not get to you until a couple of days later via standard post.
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ROCKET MICK on 10/09/2015(UTC)
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#41 Posted : 10 September 2015 09:20:27(UTC)
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Cheers...ordered from New Order site but used standard delivery...won't be there for a courier and thought they would use Royal Mail who keep it available locally for at least a week!
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Originally Posted by: In A Noisy Place Go to Quoted Post
The Restless 12'' and the CD single are available now on store.neworder.com (don't know if they ship to Australia)

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The first pressing only will be green vinyl.



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The CD single includes limited edition slipcase to hold all future CD singles from ‘Music Complete’. The slipcase will only be available from the New Order store.


Already ordered the flipping CD from elsewhere. Now I'm going to have 2 :/
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Cheers...ordered from New Order site but used standard delivery...won't be there for a courier and thought they would use Royal Mail who keep it available locally for at least a week!



According to the site the estimated delivery times are as follows:

Standard Mail: Europe is 1-7 business days, USA/Canada 7-21 business days and to the rest of the world: 7-30 business days.

Courier: UK is 2-3 business days, rest of Europe 1-3 business days and to the rest of world: 7-10 business days.

Seems strange how standard delivery doesn't mention UK and courier delivery not USA/Canada? You're looking at 1 - 7 days anyhow. Hopefully it will be the former and they get posted out the day before release.
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Originally Posted by: BazG Go to Quoted Post


According to the site the estimated delivery times are as follows:

Standard Mail: Europe is 1-7 business days, USA/Canada 7-21 business days and to the rest of the world: 7-30 business days.

Courier: UK is 2-3 business days, rest of Europe 1-3 business days and to the rest of world: 7-10 business days.

Seems strange how standard delivery doesn't mention UK and courier delivery not USA/Canada? You're looking at 1 - 7 days anyhow. Hopefully it will be the former and they get posted out the day before release.


AFAIK, UK is in "Europe" and USA/Canada in "Rest of the world".
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According to the site the estimated delivery times are as follows:

Standard Mail: Europe is 1-7 business days, USA/Canada 7-21 business days and to the rest of the world: 7-30 business days.

Courier: UK is 2-3 business days, rest of Europe 1-3 business days and to the rest of world: 7-10 business days.

Seems strange how standard delivery doesn't mention UK and courier delivery not USA/Canada? You're looking at 1 - 7 days anyhow. Hopefully it will be the former and they get posted out the day before release.


AFAIK, UK is in "Europe" and USA/Canada in "Rest of the world".


Thanks for your informative post, but if USA and Canada are included in "Rest of the world" then why are they stated separately under standard mail, but amalgamated for courier delivery? My point being that you would expect both options to be consistent with the areas stated. And by your supposition, UK standard delivery would be minimum 1 day, but by courier 2 days. Doesn't really make sense when you think about it does it?

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According to an email I received today: "Available on green vinyl, digital download or CD, all purchases from the New Order store receive the RAC and Agoria remixes instantly."

Now when I ordered my copy of the CD 2 days ago, it stated I would receive the Agoria mix only on 15/09 and this is still pending. Has anyone received the downloads or have they just started doing this for new orders, and those of us who have previously placed an order won't receive them?

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Originally Posted by: BazG Go to Quoted Post
According to an email I received today: "Available on green vinyl, digital download or CD, all purchases from the New Order store receive the RAC and Agoria remixes instantly."

Now when I ordered my copy of the CD 2 days ago, it stated I would receive the Agoria mix only on 15/09 and this is still pending. Has anyone received the downloads or have they just started doing this for new orders, and those of us who have previously placed an order won't receive them?


I pre ordered the Restless CD last night from NewOrder store.After it all went through the download of the Agoria mix showed up as "Processing" , however after 45 minutes it was still processing and i went and did something else.Much later i'd forgotten all about it and turned my laptop off and went to bed.Remembered today and logged into the store and it states the mix had downloaded but i don't have it / cant find it anywhere as far as i can see.Not that i'm that bothered, i'll have it on the cd anyway.

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Originally Posted by: BazG Go to Quoted Post
According to an email I received today: "Available on green vinyl, digital download or CD, all purchases from the New Order store receive the RAC and Agoria remixes instantly."

Now when I ordered my copy of the CD 2 days ago, it stated I would receive the Agoria mix only on 15/09 and this is still pending. Has anyone received the downloads or have they just started doing this for new orders, and those of us who have previously placed an order won't receive them?


Yup, they appear to be fibbing - RAC remix doesn't appear on the "downloads" and Agoria mix states that we'll have to wait until 15/09 even though you can buy the mixes elsewhere...

Piss up... Brewery! Laugh

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Originally Posted by: BazG Go to Quoted Post
According to an email I received today: "Available on green vinyl, digital download or CD, all purchases from the New Order store receive the RAC and Agoria remixes instantly."

Now when I ordered my copy of the CD 2 days ago, it stated I would receive the Agoria mix only on 15/09 and this is still pending. Has anyone received the downloads or have they just started doing this for new orders, and those of us who have previously placed an order won't receive them?


Yup, they appear to be fibbing - RAC remix doesn't appear on the "downloads" and Agoria mix states that we'll have to wait until 15/09 even though you can buy the mixes elsewhere...

Piss up... Brewery! Laugh

Cool



First up, anyone complaining about shipping in the UK should cool their jets. I've taken out a second mortgage to ship the vinyl box set plus Restless 12" and CD single down here.

Next up, are Mute new to this digital download game?

- They stated the Restless RAC and Agoria remixes would be available instantly. Now they're listed as Agoria (15/9) and RAC (18/9)
- Did anyone actually receive access to a Restless download upon pre-ordering the album? It states you do and yet.. you don't.

They'd want to ensure they've pressed the right buttons on the 25th...
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I pre ordered the box set when it was announced. I did get the Restless download via email notification on the day of release. The current status of my CD single just shows the Agoria mix as status 3 - whatever that means? Available date is 15/09 as mentioned above.I've emailed the store anyway to ask for clarification on this. Should hopefully have an answer tomorrow.
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