I hadn't spotted this until now, apologies if its already been posted, from Hooky's blog in July:
here's the link too: http://www.peterhook.co.uk/#/blogs/hookys-blog

"A lot of people have been asking what I feel about the New Record. Apart from the lousy titles it hasn’t had much impact, to be honest. I do not think the band has any validity at all now.

As I keep saying… !t may be called New Order but it is not New Order. It is definitely more Bad Lieutenant. In fact, a lot of the tracks on this record were destined for the 2nd Bad Lieutenant album (canned because of the lack of success). I must say that writing and finishing any album is something definitely to be proud of. I just wish the circumstances suited its release. It is funny seeing all the bullshit that’s surrounds the release. That is definitely something that I am not used to. Our last record was released in 2005 and while I witnessed it surrounding their gigs and so called reformation, this is a lot different.

It does make me wonder who they are trying to convince…themselves?…or you?

It is your money that keeps them going. In the same way it keeps me going. I suppose the difference is I am not pretending to be something I’m not. Writing the New Order book and going over everything in such detail has shown me many things I wasn’t really aware of. One thing it has definitely shown me is that New Order weren’t just a group…it was, in some ways, more an attitude. An attitude we brought with us from Joy Division and Punk. An attitude and celebration of a time that was very special. Embodied in Factory, The Hacienda and Manchester.

An anarchic, selfish way of looking at this crazy, bullshit business, that made it special, bearable and our own.

We did everything we could to try and change the system for the better, for everyone, and almost succeeded. At times, it made life very difficult for us. But the music and that attitude kept us going. Playing the gigs, ignoring Joy Division, at last winning the audiences approval and building a following, soon showed us we were doing something right.

Unfortunately when Factory went bust we knew things would change and slowly they did. After never having a single on an album, Republic, on London Records had four, the interminable remixing of the songs further diluting the core of the music and the principles. Then the videos etc etc.,

We changed too. In my opinion that’s when New Order finished as an attitude and way of life. We became just another group doing what every other group does. Once Rob passed it was buried with him.


Now they are just another group without the right line up, desperately trying to prove to you that they still have some value. That they still deserve your money and respect…take it from me…they don’t. Amazingly they have even conned Daniel Miller at Mute too.

My legal fight over the unauthorised use of the name is still ongoing. I will get Justice soon.

Until then recognise this for exactly what it is.

I can remember doing the promo for ‘Waiting for The siren’s Call’ and having to pretend everything was great with the group. Pretending we were all together and happy with the release. Like some new actress joining ‘Emmerdale’ or ‘Coronation Street’ all that ‘Were all one big happy family’ bollocks. Even though certain members were hardly on it. But I supposed we were used to doing that.

Credit it where it’s due though, as I said before making an LP, especially a New Order LP takes you through 7 kinds of hell at least. So completing it is a great achievement and I am positive that Barney will have worked very, very hard indeed on trying to make this one, the one that proves he doesn’t need me. I hear he has said there are two songs about me on it?

WOW! I’m flattered!

Although it makes him sound (especially after all this time) like a spurned lover….a bit creepy.

I suppose I, like you, will have to wait to pass final judgement. I hope he doesn’t succeed…I really do. New Order were very special, it started when that three piece appeared at The Beach Club and with that same three piece hardly changing all the way up to Technique, the magic was still there even then".

Sad individual.

My first contact with New Order started because the music - I didn't know anything about the attitude first. I just hear the songs on the radio, then I searched for the records in the shops... the last stage was to know everything I needed (or wanted) to know about the people behind the music, their ideas and their attitude. Yes, the attitude became music more brilliant, but I was already hooked on the band's sound at that point. So, the music is what really matters to me. And it seems that reformed New Order still produces good and fresh music.

Hooky seems to ignore the music. He thinks New Order only as "concept" or a way to do (or not to do) things (in music industry) and that concept would have died from a determined point. I respect his opinion but if I didn't know anything about Joy Division, Factory, Haçienda, etc, even so I would love Blue Monday, TPK, Low Life, Technique... and now Restless.

Another point is: people get older and change their minds. Rebels at youth; family men at middle-aged. It's quite odd a 60 years old man having the same mind and ideas like a young punk rocker. Nothing wrong to play the greatest hits to big audiences. It's not a crime to make money. After all, for what you spent years of your life writing successful singles and albums?

What an utterly deluded, childish cunt. The amount of times I've felt like slapping him over the years with his bitchy comments. What's rich is he plays the victim card when the shoe's on the other foot.

I remember him saying years ago "oh if only you knew the real reason we split up etc etc." He was then asked to tell all, and he declined.

Dickhead.

any new material from the light --- err no not until the NEW ORDER LP is released !


Roger Waters (one person could not keep the name Pink Floyd) Legal precedent - use this Barney


Bobby Chalton can't call himself Man United


What a joke


NU ORDAH

A Digital Mick sent from the future. He's incredibly lifelike.

Another rant from Hooky's blog:

Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:29:12

It seems there is a God!

The so called ‘New Odour Single’ is crap. Thank you my higher power!

Well it’s not crap, it’s just OK…which will do me. I must admit it was a very strange moment getting ready to listen to it. But I did and it sounds exactly like I thought it would…a Barney Sumner solo record. He truly is in control. Chorus is quite catchy but it is not as good as any other Single we ever recorded…Oh! Apart from ‘Jetstream’ … another Barney Sumner solo singleJ

I am delighted.

It is soulless and Barney even manages to sound bored while he sings it (should be called ‘Care less’ …cos it sounds like he doesn’t). The bass is relegated to a backing role, just how he likes it, in fact everything is in a backing role. The drums start off well but the complicated pattern is distracting. The whole song seems programmed to within an inch of it’s life (I bet that computer was red hot)…I bet it was re-programmed for weeks or months even, with everyone kept waiting until had every possible overdub had been exhausted, driving everyone mad in the process. It’s a bit lifeless, much like the group.

I feel sorry for the fans… waiting 10 years for some material with our name on it and getting presented with this? It really feels to me like just going through the motions (exactly why I split the group up in 2007). ‘The Emperor’s new clothes’ springs to mind.

Now the poor bastards have to do the promotion and pretend how much they enjoyed making it and how fulfilling it was etc etc., how everyone was fully involved blah blah blah…how were all getting on great, so much better than before. It’s like them soap actresses that appear on Lorraine and the first thing they say is, ‘Oh yeh! We’re just one big happy family on the set.’

Oh the deceit, just like we did on ‘Get Ready’ and ‘Siren’s’… god forgive me. I must admit that is one thing I don’t miss is the lying, the pretence, the myth/pantomime that all group’s peddle.

I was reading his MOJO Interview, which I will answer for you soon. I am sick and tired of that bastard lying about what happened with the Hacienda Name, I really am. The guy is a fucking moron as well as a liar (allegedly;) it’s time you knew the truth and I will write to MOJO and provide the proof.

My wife keeps telling me off, telling me to stop, to focus on how much I enjoy what I do now and not take any notice of the others. I know she’s right. But until the case is settled I cannot let up, not until justice is done. What they did to me is disgusting, stealing what was rightly mine from behind my back while I was in tour in China without ANY involvement with me, and expecting me to just lump it. NO CHANCE! After 31 years blood sweat and tears. What would you do?

Using the excuse of me playing Joy Division and taking The Hacienda name as justification to you, the fans, that they were right to come back as New Order without me. This is simply not true.

As I said before Bad Lieutenant were playing both Joy Division and New Order songs long before I did, and the Hacienda name was bought by Rob Gretton in 1997 at a public auction held by The Liquidator after The Hac went bankrupt. I get sick of repeating it, sometimes it feels like an ant kicking an elephant…but I’ll keep kicking until you all see sense.

They should be boycotted by every New Order Fan…they do not deserve your support. They are Thieves…’Thieves like them’ hee hee;)

LOL

This is eating Hooky up big time and for all concerned I wish he would just "let it go".

Wow - he's really all over the place here. I think he needs to get some help, and quickly.

Not sure how useful it is to his legal case by calling them 'thieves', a 'lying bastard' and a 'fucking moron' in a published blog. He's welcome to an opinion, but it really is just his opinion, and as he left the band, it's no more valid than my own. In fact, less so - after listening to his solo/side project output, I trust my ears over Hooky's on what sounds good and what doesn't. (Big hint: Freebass was really not good)

Hooky - you were the first of the NO side projects to play both NO and JD tracks live, you did both DNE and Failures with Revenge. Electronic never did either JD or NO, and the OT never performed live. Your argument is weak. The rest of what you have to say is character assassination or incoherent rambling that often contradicts itself. Get help and for goodness sake, get yourself a press agent, or at least someone to proofread your blog before you publish.

It's obvious he still would like to be in the group, he's the creepy jealous ex lover. Hooky, it was your decision to leave, admit to yourself what a bad decision it was, musically and financially. Everything he moans about, he writes in his blogs, it's all about not coming to terms that HE made this false decision, not Barney, Steve or Gillian. It's like quitting your job and and then complaining about why the company is not going under without you, as you were the most important associate, of course - in your opinion.

The guy needs to think about what all this childish bitching and anger is doing to his health.

He is regretting every single moment of leaving.

Reminds me of a mate who left his missus for the greener side of the fence, only to change his mind when his ex began to date a VERY rich man and his own new relationship broke down within a year or so. This new man absolutely doted on her and treated her well (he still does all these years later), but my mate is now convinced that he stole her off him with his money - that they had been seeing each other before he dumped her.

This is blatantly untrue because the girl was in bits at the time and only met this bloke much later on. In truth, my mate was an absolute shit to her and has now revised history in order to save face.

Hook is doing the same thing. Every drop of bitter poison that spews off his ugly tongue convicts him of his envy and will do nothing in the long run except to make him ill (as said above).