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Eimi  
#26 Posted : 30 September 2013 02:54:31(UTC)
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I don't understand how he could've been threatened by the technology back then. It's possible to play an actual bass (or other instruments) with a synth-based song, as they did early on.... On top of that, it's humans that program the beats and sounds, not the other way around.... I don't know the band members, but do you think Steve or Bernard ever felt 'threatened' by the new technology and synths?
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#27 Posted : 01 October 2013 05:49:43(UTC)
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I don't understand how he could've been threatened by the technology back then. It's possible to play an actual bass (or other instruments) with a synth-based song, as they did early on.... On top of that, it's humans that program the beats and sounds, not the other way around.... I don't know the band members, but do you think Steve or Bernard ever felt 'threatened' by the new technology and synths?


Totally agreed. As Pink Floyd's guitarrist David Gilmour said [about technology in music] in 1972: "it's all extensions of what's coming out of our heads... the equipment isn't actually thinking about what to do any of the time. It couldn't control itself". And as one of the pioneers of using synths and sequencers in popular music (even before Kraftwerk and Giorgio Moroder), they weren't threatened by the new technology at that time. I think Hooky once more doesn't had something relevant to say and said the first bullshit that came on to his head... again. Laugh

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#28 Posted : 03 October 2013 02:08:37(UTC)
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Another interview (and change in tune)

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“I think the main reason for this was that all three of us were becoming more and more interested in electronics — particularly sequencers and synthesizers,” Hook said. “You can hear the beginnings of this on ‘Closer,’ the final Joy Division record. So when it came to New Order, it was only natural that our interests in electronics would continue to grow and that this would then show itself in our new music.”
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#29 Posted : 03 October 2013 03:48:31(UTC)
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Andy wrote:
Another interview (and change in tune)

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“I think the main reason for this was that all three of us were becoming more and more interested in electronics — particularly sequencers and synthesizers,” Hook said. “You can hear the beginnings of this on ‘Closer,’ the final Joy Division record. So when it came to New Order, it was only natural that our interests in electronics would continue to grow and that this would then show itself in our new music.”


It makes much more sense... probably, that's what everyone always thought about. Uh oh
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#30 Posted : 03 October 2013 08:24:04(UTC)
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Aracri wrote:
I think Hooky once more doesn't had something relevant to say and said the first bullshit that came on to his head... again.[/size] Laugh


Yeah. I love Hooky live but in interviews he's a bit like Jordan's pussy: doesn't think before opening its lips. I loved it in 93 when he said Republic was a classic NO-sounding LP, now it's all fuck Bernard and Hague.
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#31 Posted : 03 October 2013 23:27:17(UTC)
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Threatened? They "fookin" invented much of it.

I really wish Peter would SHUT IT!
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#32 Posted : 04 October 2013 10:15:12(UTC)
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"New Odour". ? Does he mean they stink? If yes, funny that this comes from the person in the band that always looked like he needed a shower.
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#33 Posted : 04 October 2013 15:31:26(UTC)
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leather-girl wrote:
do you think Steve or Bernard ever felt 'threatened' by the new technology and synths?


Hardly, both Bernard and Steve totally embraced the new technology, and Bernard was responsible for most of the innovation in their use of technology, from the bubbling sound on These Days to EGG, arpeggiators and all kinds of weirdness.
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#34 Posted : 05 October 2013 00:57:14(UTC)
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Tim wrote:
leather-girl wrote:
do you think Steve or Bernard ever felt 'threatened' by the new technology and synths?


Hardly, both Bernard and Steve totally embraced the new technology, and Bernard was responsible for most of the innovation in their use of technology, from the bubbling sound on These Days to EGG, arpeggiators and all kinds of weirdness.


Cool
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#35 Posted : 03 November 2013 02:41:03(UTC)
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This sounds most likely

"Also, Bernard and Stephen's interest in technology really bloomed from 1982. I was the old stick-in-the-mud saying 'can't we just rock out?' 
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#36 Posted : 04 November 2013 10:36:44(UTC)
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Andy wrote:
This sounds most likely

"Also, Bernard and Stephen's interest in technology really bloomed from 1982. I was the old stick-in-the-mud saying 'can't we just rock out?' 


Yeah I'm no expert but this makes sense to me. When Melody Maker's Paul Lester wasn't wanking over Thieves Like Us he did a massive masturbatory article http://www.neworderonlin...ic.aspx?Topic=Article031 and Hooky says it was really Bernard who was into the technology, Hooky himself who was into rocking. As Claud Flowers' book points out, it's no coincidence that 'Electronic' is synth with supporting guitars, 'One True Passion' the opposite formula. You get the same impression from the Glasgow DVD interview with Pete.
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ROCKET MICK on 04/11/2013(UTC)
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#37 Posted : 04 November 2013 10:39:17(UTC)
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They should have finished the band in 1990 indeed Dead



really? but then we would never have had Regret, Crystal, Turn and Working Overtime!!!


Or Sugarcane, that pile of sub-One Direction wank. Oh joy.
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ROCKET MICK on 04/11/2013(UTC)
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#38 Posted : 04 November 2013 10:44:53(UTC)
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Andy wrote:
Another interview (and change in tune)

Excerpt:

“I think the main reason for this was that all three of us were becoming more and more interested in electronics — particularly sequencers and synthesizers,” Hook said. “You can hear the beginnings of this on ‘Closer,’ the final Joy Division record. So when it came to New Order, it was only natural that our interests in electronics would continue to grow and that this would then show itself in our new music.”


This article says, 'New Order was originally Joy Division.' Fucking hell, another scoop. You learn a new thing every day. Thank you for that.

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