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Alex_Loyal  
#1 Posted : 28 September 2015 02:47:17(UTC)
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or the 2 songs Hooky claims on the album that are supposed to be about him, well which 2 are they, or is Peter talk shite, again? Wink

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#2 Posted : 28 September 2015 02:52:00(UTC)
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'You're So Vain' is one of them.
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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2015(UTC)
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#3 Posted : 28 September 2015 03:01:46(UTC)
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Poisonous Intent.
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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2015(UTC)
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Never mind that, it's been three days since Music Complete was released and we've all enjoyed listening to it, but just how much longer are we going to have to wait for a Rant from Hooky?
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#5 Posted : 28 September 2015 03:20:48(UTC)
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How Do You Sleep?
Poisonous Intent and Sugarcane.
I'd be surprised if they were sniping like that. The relations could hardly be worse already.
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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2015(UTC)
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#6 Posted : 28 September 2015 03:25:52(UTC)
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or the 2 songs Hooky claims on the album that are supposed to be about him, well which 2 are they, or is Peter talk shite, again? Wink




As a guess I'd say academic and unlearn this hatred.
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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2015(UTC)
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#7 Posted : 28 September 2015 04:31:38(UTC)
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Barney's lyrics are generally applicable to a myriad of people, including himself. Despite their often childlike simplicity (perhaps because of that) they can nearly always apply to ourselves as well, as if he has the same access to what happens in our lives as God does.

But, yes, if you think of Hooky all the way through the album you might think that he was the main inspiration for most of the album lol.
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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2015(UTC)
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#8 Posted : 28 September 2015 05:36:14(UTC)
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I certainly think there's more than two; I'd say Academic and Nothing but a Fool, for sure. Unlearn This Hatred and Singularity might be about New Order and the situation caused by Hooky, rather than being directly about him. It's like on Republic, most of the lyrics seemed to be about Factory or New Order...

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#9 Posted : 28 September 2015 06:40:14(UTC)
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I'd say the only song clearly all about Hooky and their relationship was Poisonous Intent. That and the band name Bad Lieutenant. I don't really see much Hooky inspiration in this disc honestly.

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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2015(UTC)
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#10 Posted : 28 September 2015 06:50:24(UTC)
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Actually, I've changed my mind about Academic, it's likely to be about a someone at school, as the name suggests, like a teacher...
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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2015(UTC)
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#11 Posted : 28 September 2015 09:12:04(UTC)
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I'd say PLASTIC and NOTHING BUT A FOOL Hi
Let's all wave our arms about !
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#12 Posted : 28 September 2015 11:00:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NO Fan Go to Quoted Post

most of the lyrics seemed to be about Factory or New Order...


Round and Round was apparently about Tony and - another Monkhouse scoop - Liar definitely was. 'I can't stand the music' was reportedly cos he used to have MTV playing all day and Barney was miffed.
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#13 Posted : 28 September 2015 11:02:39(UTC)
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'You're So Vain' is one of them.


The double-edged irony of that is that if she says, YOU probably think this song is about you, then it is. Smart!
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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2015(UTC)
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#14 Posted : 28 September 2015 14:08:52(UTC)
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Everything is about Hooky:

Bassless
NotDrinkingRegularly
Plastic (An ode to Hooky's plectrum)
Tooty Booty [Peter is notoriously flatulent]
Lacking in the Bassline
Estranged Blog
Hackademic [Regarding thinly veiled wish to swap Hooky back in for Chappy]
Nothing but a Full Share of Future Earnings is Acceptable
Unlearn those Basslines
(Change) The Name
Hookdefeated
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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2015(UTC)
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#15 Posted : 28 September 2015 14:11:28(UTC)
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...and the elusive B-side:

My Hat is on Backwards Yet is Facing the Audience in Early Gigs
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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2015(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NO Fan Go to Quoted Post
Nothing but a Fool, for sure.

"don't ever let her run away". That seems to be theme of the song. Not sure how that relates to Hook.


Originally Posted by: Michael Monkhouse Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Johnny James Go to Quoted Post
'You're So Vain' is one of them.


The double-edged irony of that is that if she says, YOU probably think this song is about you, then it is. Smart!


GTFO!! Eek

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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2015(UTC)
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#17 Posted : 28 September 2015 15:22:02(UTC)
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Nothing but a Fool, for sure.

"don't ever let her run away". That seems to be theme of the song. Not sure how that relates to Hook.


My theory is Bernard has cheekily assumed the role of Peter Hook and the girl he's singing about is New Order!

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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2015(UTC)
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#18 Posted : 28 September 2015 15:38:11(UTC)
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I'd like to think that NONE of them are about him.
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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2015(UTC)
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#19 Posted : 28 September 2015 16:28:11(UTC)
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Framing "side 2": Academic and Superheated
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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2015(UTC)
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#20 Posted : 28 September 2015 18:37:36(UTC)
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Nothing is about him. No need to waste space on that fucking waste of space.
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ROCKET MICK on 28/09/2015(UTC), Baggie Boiler on 28/09/2015(UTC)
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#21 Posted : 08 October 2015 10:08:51(UTC)
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Late follow-up... In '93 Bernard said the 'Chemical' bit about a payroll factory wasn't specifically about Factory, but I found it hard to imagine him penning such a line in different circumstances... He also said RIAD sounds like it's about Factory but wasn't: they all went out and got 'zonked' and then wrote this tune. The notion of '93's NO hanging out together and bashing out a track together struck me as dubious too, but that's what the man said. Won't you listen to what the man said?
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ROCKET MICK on 08/10/2015(UTC)
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#22 Posted : 08 October 2015 10:50:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Andy Go to Quoted Post
Everything is about Hooky:

Bassless
NotDrinkingRegularly
Plastic (An ode to Hooky's plectrum)
Tooty Booty [Peter is notoriously flatulent]
Lacking in the Bassline
Estranged Blog
Hackademic [Regarding thinly veiled wish to swap Hooky back in for Chappy]
Nothing but a Full Share of Future Earnings is Acceptable
Unlearn those Basslines
(Change) The Name
Hookdefeated



Not sure if it's clear that this is from Hooky's perspective. Jokes are always better when you have to explain them, right?
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